Diversidade climática

[mesogeiakos]

Is that Palaiochora at West side of Crete?
A bit further East, you can have maybe the warmest spot in Greece...
In the coast and with a mountain nearby.

Palaiochora fica no lado oeste de Creta?
Um pouco para leste, talvez fique o local mais quente da Grécia...
Na costa e com uma montanha próxima.

Yes Palaiochora is in the south west of Crete...

But here there is a big debate.Can you see the geophysical map of South Crete?Look at the Palaiochora area and compare it to Ierapetra..It seems that Palaiochora is actually much more protected than Ierapetra.

In my opinion the warmest spot in Greece and geographical Europe in terms of mean annual temperature should be either around the enclaves of Palaiochora or the Zakros tip in Ierapetra and also probably in the coastal areas of Messara Plain in South Herakleion.

 

[mesogeiakos]

Aprende a leer.

Hellenikon 170 mm tan solo en noviembre y diciembre. Has mentido y esta demostrado.

http://forum.meteoclub.gr/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1450&sid=704d3b55913403029784be5174fb7d46

Wake up dedalus,Mesogeiakos does not lie nor does creative maths or geography.I have said that Hellenikon according to the Greek press was less than 100m .

Btw i can also say Hellenikon had 1000mm in 1993 in a greek forum.

 

[mesogeiakos]

Dificil que Grecia supere a España en calor cuando en Santa Cruz de Tenerife la media anual es de 21ºC y en Maspalomas de aproximadamente 23ºC.

En la isla asiatica de Rodas tienen 23ºc de media anual? Hahaha, pues debe ser contando solo los meses de verano.

Hasta en Malaga Puerto y pequeñas localidades de la costa de Malaga tienen temperaturas superiores a las islas griegas (las europeas y las asiaticas). Y eso que Malaga puerto está en el continente!!!!!!

Then with this logic the UK and France are the warmest in Europe!Anguilla and St.Martins

Get over it mate.In geographical Europe,Greece has the warmest areas!

 

[Ferreiro]

Wake up dedalus,Mesogeiakos does not lie nor does creative maths or geography.I have said that Hellenikon according to the Greek press was less than 100m .

Btw i can also say Hellenikon had 1000mm in 1993 in a greek forum.

Tu puedes decir lo que quieras. La mayoria de las cosas que dices son mentira y ya se ha demostrado

Los aproximadamente 300 mm en Atenas en 1993 lo dicen los foros griegos, los datos de Ogimet y los oficiales de la Universidad de Atenas entre otros. Pero como tu no soportas que Almeria tenga 100 mm y ATenas pierda en el concepto de aridez te inventaste el dato. COMPLEJO DE INFERIORIDAD se llama eso.

A mi lo que diga alguien que ya se ha demostrado que miente, como decimos en mi tierra, me la suda. Me basta con usar los datos oficiales. Yo no necesito mentir!!!

 

[mesogeiakos]

While our friend Dedalus cries that Greece beats Iberia in everything

@Belem here are same very interesting data from the HNMS stations(provided from NTUA) that show the mean annual rainfall of Greece.

Note a 1729mm in north Corfu and a mere 208mm in Argolis.

The lowest in Greece appear to be

1.SE Argolis with 208mm
2.Katerini in Macedonia with 262mm
3.South Attica with 268mm and
4.Palaiochora with 298mm

 

[belem]

Yes Palaiochora is in the south west of Crete...

But here there is a big debate.Can you see the geophysical map of South Crete?Look at the Palaiochora area and compare it to Ierapetra..It seems that Palaiochora is actually much more protected than Ierapetra.

In my opinion the warmest spot in Greece and geographical Europe in terms of mean annual temperature should be either around the enclaves of Palaiochora or the Zakros tip in Ierapetra and also probably in the coastal areas of Messara Plain in South Herakleion.

For me, one of the warmest and driest places of Greece can be seen in Google Earth at ( Lat: 35º 12' 04. 08" N ; Long: 24º 03' 59. 47" E )

At least, around the area, there are some more good spots.


Para mim, um dos sítios mais quentes e secos da Grécia podem ser vistos no Google Earth ( ( Lat: 35º 12' 04. 08" N ; Long: 24º 03' 59. 47" E )

Pelo menos, na zona, existem mais alguns bons locais.

 

[belem]

While our friend Dedalus cries that Greece beats Iberia in everything

@Belem here are same very interesting data from the HNMS stations(provided from NTUA) that show the mean annual rainfall of Greece.

Note a 1729mm in north Corfu and a mere 208mm in Argolis.

The lowest in Greece appear to be

1.SE Argolis with 208mm
2.Katerini in Macedonia with 262mm
3.South Attica with 268mm and
4.Palaiochora with 298mm

I guess that rainfall in Greece can be higher in the mountains, than those 1739 mm in Corfu.
Most Greece is mountains and most of his stations are all located in lowland warmer and sheltered areas...
It would be interesting to gather data from mountains as well.
208 mm is an interesting value, indeed.


Penso que a precipitação média anual deve ser mais alta nas montanhas, do que 1739 mm em Corfu.
A maior parte da Grécia é montanhas e a maior parte das suas estações estão todas localizadas em zonas baixas e abrigadas.
Seria interessante recolher dados sobre as montanhas.
208 mm é um valor interessante, sem dúvida.

 

[mesogeiakos]

I guess that rainfall in Greece can be higher in the mountains, than those 1739 mm in Corfu.
Most Greece is mountains and most of his stations are all located in lowland warmer and sheltered areas...
It would be interesting to gather data from mountains as well.
208 mm is an interesting value, indeed.


Penso que a precipitação média anual deve ser mais alta nas montanhas, do que 1739 mm em Corfu.
A maior parte da Grécia é montanhas e a maior parte das suas estações estão todas localizadas em zonas baixas e abrigadas.
Seria interessante recolher dados sobre as montanhas.
208 mm é um valor interessante, sem dúvida.

The mountains do get extreme precipitation!You see Greece is mostly mountainous country.Much more than Portugal or the Iberia Peninsula.This is also the reason as to why Greece has so exremely complex climate diversity.But this is mostly microclimatic!

Athens being the most famous example.From the North Suburbs of Dionisos with a mean annual temp of lower than 16C to the South Athens areas of Voula and Vouliagmeni with a mean annual of over 19C.All in the same cityIn fact the Athenians commonly say in Greek that ''Νοτια με Βορεια προαστεια αλλος κοσμος'' which will account for the tremendous diversity of Athens climatologically speaking.As you know the Athens basin is surrounded by 5 mountains (Imitos,Penteli,Parnitha,Aigaleo and Poikilo Oros) and a number of hills that give this extreme diversity.People living in the same city can feel like living in a different country sometimes


Now for SE Argolis.It is known that the driest areas of Greece are somewhere either in Argolis,Argosaronikos,South Attica,South Cyclades and South Crete

 

[mesogeiakos]

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208 mm é um valor interessante, sem dúvida.

Indeed very interesting.SE Argolis is one the driest areas of Greece (and also Peel at al 2007 has it down as BSh climate in his map).

If you go to the Hydra Island next to the 208mm location in Google Earth..you will be suprised.Just look at its south half....Looks totally barren!

Btw Hydra is administrativelly in Attica

 

[belem]

The mountains do get extreme precipitation!You see Greece is mostly mountainous country.Much more than Portugal or the Iberia Peninsula.This is also the reason as to why Greece has so exremely complex climate diversity.But this is mostly microclimatic!

Athens being the most famous example.From the North Suburbs of Dionisos with a mean annual temp of lower than 16C to the South Athens areas of Voula and Vouliagmeni with a mean annual of over 19C.All in the same cityIn fact the Athenians commonly say in Greek that ''Νοτια με Βορεια προαστεια αλλος κοσμος'' which will account for the tremendous diversity of Athens climatologically speaking.As you know the Athens basin is surrounded by 5 mountains (Imitos,Penteli,Parnitha,Aigaleo and Poikilo Oros) and a number of hills that give this extreme diversity.People living in the same city can feel like living in a different country sometimes


Now for SE Argolis.It is known that the driest areas of Greece are somewhere either in Argolis,Argosaronikos,South Attica,South Cyclades and South Crete

Very interesting, thanks.
If possible gather data about the climate of your country and open a thread.
«From the top of the highest mountain, until the remotest and warmest valley.»


Muito interessante, obrigado.
Se possível junta dados sobre o clima do teu país e abre um tópico.
Desde o topo da montanha mais alta até ao vale mais quente e remoto.

 

[belem]

Indeed very interesting.SE Argolis is one the driest areas of Greece (and also Peel at al 2007 has it down as BSh climate in his map).

If you go to the Hydra Island next to the 208mm location in Google Earth..you will be suprised.Just look at its south half....Looks totally barren!

Btw Hydra is administrativelly in Attica

Hydra sounds like water here... But, it´s dry, I agree.

Hydra soa a água aqui... Mas é seco, concordo.

 

[1337]

Iberia is more montainouse then greece
almost all spain is montainouse

 

[mesogeiakos]

Hydra sounds like water here... But, it´s dry, I agree.

Hydra soa a água aqui... Mas é seco, concordo.

Yes look at the difference in vegitation between South and North

 

[mesogeiakos]

Iberia is more montainouse then greece
almost all spain is montainouse

proportionally meant.As a percentage for the whole country!

Greece is extremely much more mountainous,seismically active and climatologically interesting country than Iberia in my opinion

Greece's geography is very complex.Look at the thousand islands and the seismic activity of Greece.It is the most seismically active country in Europe and 5th in the world.Much more geophysically,geomorphologically and geographically attractive than Iberia I am afraid

At any given time somewhere in Greece we get every 20 days an earthquake of around 5R as average,unfortunatelly!

 

[belem]

proportionally meant.As a percentage for the whole country!

Greece is extremely much more mountainous,seismically active and climatologically interesting country than Iberia in my opinion

Greece's geography is very complex.Look at the thousand islands and the seismic activity of Greece.It is the most seismically active country in Europe and 5th in the world.Much more geophysically,geomorphologically and geographically attractive than Iberia I am afraid

At any given time somewhere in Greece we get every 20 days an earthquake of around 5R as average,unfortunatelly!

I think that Greece is more mountainus relatively, it has more islands and seismically is more active than Iberia, yes.
But Iberia Peninsula is more rich in therms of biodiversity, landscapes and maybe in climates as well.

I would say that both are interesting, in my opinion.